Red Elk Speaks

A Brother Said:
            RE  I think your wrong here Brother, Paul was a defender of his FREEDOM in Christ he was not a Judaizer. Read Galatians he warns explicitly against what you are accusing him of. O Foolish Galatians who has bewitched you that you should turn from grace to the law! If anyone was a LAW man and old ways it would be JAMES not Paul. James live right in Jerusalem for years and he passed as a Jew not
Christian, he went to the temple, followed the traditions ect. It was Paul who went to the Gentiles and preached Christ but no Law, Freedom was his quest GRACE was his companion.
               If you can show me otherwise I will check it out but as it stands now I think you got it wrong…CK CK CK….GOD bless JB

Red Elk replied:
( :   I expect this from many.  Doesn’t matter.  Of COURSE he WAS freed from Judaism BUT IT APPEARS HE STARTED MAKING RULES…bringing in Today’s CONFUSION.  Please Re-read and you’ll see how he slowly SLIPPED BACK to SOME of the “Rules” the Pharisees and Sadducees had.  Not A LOT but TOO MUCH to suit FREEDOM.
I am not the only who sees this, some PASTORS I now know do as well. The only difference between me and these is I TELL IT OPENLY.
Believe me, this was no “overnight” change…it was CHECKed for ALMOST 2 1/2 YEARS!
To go against the Accepted “norm” is a very ‘dangerous’ thing.  As I read and compared from his FIRST change to his Semi-Returning change, I Too was “uneasy”.  REALLY “going against the grain.”
Yes, I expect(ed) “views” just as yours.  CHECK and LOOK Again.  Nothing wrong with disagreement…but I Will stand FIRM in this.  Good luck .   LOVE YOU ANYWAY, BROTHER!  GB   re

    RE thanks I will check again. This I do know, in ACTS he got arrested before he made a sacrifice in the Temple and this was after he had shaved his head. It seems to me he was trying to appease the Judaizers in Jerusalem but a riot started and he got arrested. I know he wasnt perfect thats a given, he parted ways with Barnabas after a big fight over John Mark but his letters are constantly reprimanding believers who keep going back to the Law or not marrying or not eating meat ect. also Paul said that it was fine to eat anything even food pagans sacrificed to idols…
       If you can give me an example where he set up rules or constrictions. Like I said it was JAMES and in his letter that lays down a lot of rules and OT stuff. So I will CK but if you have good examples let me know….hey I dont have a dog in this race TRUTH is my game so if I can learn and be Freer I am game…thanks and you know I LOVE you too! JB

Tell me, WHERE DID GOD MAKE A RULE ON MARRIAGE?  WHERE?!!
If THAT doesn’t “show you” then no use trying.
PAUL WAS A TRUE CHRISTIAN.  Still, in time he SLIPPED (“dipped”) BACK INTO HIS “Old Ways”…but ONLY Dipped!
THAT DIP HAS CAUSED ALL KINDS OF CONFUSION TO TODAY!
God is “NOT  GOD of CONFUSION.”  And Paul’s “telling” BROUGHT IT BACK!  Just a BIT, but ENOUGH TO “Hurt” and “CRIPPLE” MILLIONS over the years.
The “RULES” Paul “set down” makes You “IF YOU ‘GO’ TO ANOTHER” then YOU are RESPONSIBLE for what your FORMER MATE DOES.  ANY “outside of the marriage (divorced or what-ever)” makes YOU a “SINNER” for what the FORMER MATE now does.

I’m sorry…but I FIRMLY BELIEVE PAUL GOT A “BIT” “HEADY” with his position in the church…and DIPPED INTO THE “RULES(LAWS!)” OF THE “ACCEPTED RELIGION” OF THE DAY.
A religion BLOWN TO SMITHEREENS By JESUS .  WHO THEY MURDERED FOR IT!  Aho?

Again, this was hard for even ME to accept.  VERY HARD!

MUCH Prayer over MANY MANY MONTHS went into the views I now tell.  I WILL STICK BY IT!

<Name withheld>, you are not alone in your thinking.  Either way, WE ARE BOTH HEADING “HOME” IN THE “End.”  We BOTH will face Him AND WRONGS by either YOU or I WILL BE REVILED.   We (either one) will “go to hell” over it.  Aho?

I would like to send our correspondence to the others.  Each must decide for themselves.  Our Emailing will help in that.  Aho?  (Hope so).  GB    re

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