Red Elk Speaks

(This exchange occurred in email between Red Elk and a person we will call “J” in response to the SHORTAGES post. – WS)

J wrote:

I’m very much concerned about being dependant upon food or infrastructure for basic needs like food and medicine.

Red Elk responded:

Should be.  THOUSANDS will. 

YOU have NO IDEA what food and water lack will force on you (all).

THESE WILL CONTROL YOU…actually HERD you, to FULL GOVERNMENT CONTROL…IE the # 666.

Hear me WELL : ONLY TRUSTING “HIM” WILL GET US (you) THROUGH!   

If you have money, you’ll need a MINIMUM of SEVEN (7) YEARS Food/Water savings set aside…PER PERSON.

10, the BEST.   Good Luck.  Re

J:

I’m not trusting him or money.
I’m going to get self-sufficient resources. Grow our own food, supply our own medicines, our own power.
It’s called the LightHouse Project.
While we may not agree on spiritual matters, we do see some things the same, Red.
And you might find some merit in my project. It is about people finding value in people.
I’ll give you more info if you are interested.

Red Elk:

Its ok to disagree.  Each their own path.  Aho?

Your group idea GOOD….BUT WILL DRAW ATTENTION OF THE “CONTROLLERS”.  NOT smart.  Good intentions = not THEIR “intentions”.  BEWARE!   re

J:

Right… you didn’t even really hear my idea out.
And yes, it is okay to disagree.
But here is a question.

Is it okay to promote or spread information that runs counter to what is know to be factual true information?
Would this be considered spreading lies?

That’s a question I think, and I hope, we can both agree on the answer to. On that question, I do not think it is okay to disagree.

Red Elk:

Depends on Who’s “fact”.  re

J:

General observable fact.
Facts are facts. If it’s not something that can be clearly understood, then it won’t be factual to those that don’t understand it. But their lack of understanding does not lessen the truth of the fact if it has evidence to support it. It only prevents them from accepting it easily.

Facts.

Things you can provide evidence for, or test.

Red Elk:

FACT : I (as some I’ve taught):  LEVITATE     

FACT : a number of BLIND NOW SEE   

FACT:  ONE DEAD (dead DEAD) NOW ALIVE AND WELL

FACT:  a number now Do ON DEMAND Mental TELEPATHY (“phone calls”)

FACT:   I and a Few OTHERS, TELEPORT

FACT : Some PASS THROUGH SOLIDS (Including my wife and self)

FACT : Most WITNESSED

FACT : Big Brother SAID “we ALL CAN”

Believe as you want.  Your path.  FACT : you ARE!   re

J:

You don’t expect me to believe all that on your word.
I would like to see it happen. Then I can believe. I have no experiences that show me that such things are possible.
So it would be silly for me to abandon all I know and understand and accept that.
Big Brother is not an official organization, it’s a derogatory term for the Government.
The Government is not one group, who in the government said you can.

I have lots of miracle workers tell me what miracle they have done, and can do.
But they can never do it on demand in front of me, or actually at all in front of me.
So, I’m skeptical of such claims.
The reason I don’t believe you is everyone I’ve ever met who says crap like that is a liar, and usually has started to believe their own crazy.

So I’ll consider it, if you show me examples of it working.
Otherwise, don’t tell me things you cannot, or will refuse to prove or substantiate, that go against everything I know, and tell me it’s a choice of mine somehow I believe. That’s almost insulting.

As long as you don’t do that, I’d love to see some examples of this. It would change a lot of things I accepted as ‘don’t happen’ and give me new things to look at.

Do NOT say stuff like that, and then tell me it’s up to me believe, without a demonstration.
If you do that, you can just go ahead and not bother responding, because you’re no better than the religious tyrants who abused and oppressed me my whole childhood.
Will you show me any of this, or are you just making shit up?

Red Elk:

Nope, I don’t…AND TELL SO.

I won’t waste your time.  Your path. 

See you “top side” bro….but then, you don’t believe that as well.

DONE

(Good luck)  re

J:

Why not, I’m desperate for answers.
Always have them. You just stated you have facts, and you can do these things.
You could lay to rest much of my fear and uncertainty.

Please do so?

(At this point, for no apparent reason, J decided to include me and Heather in on this discussion, and included all of the above in the email so we had a good idea what was going on.  Red Elk wanted our answers included in this post, so my less than civil answer is first, so Heather’s much kinder answer can wrap this all up on a more positive note. I make no apologies for my response, ‘perform for me’ demands are a pet peeve of mine. – WS)

WS:

Why is this being sent to me?

I can tell you, re: most of the stuff Red Elk says – get off your butt and test it YOURSELF!!!!  Words will only go so far, and if you keep needing more words and ‘proof’, then your faith is crap and the knowledge will be useless to you anyway.  There are many things you will only ‘see’ if you BELIEVE FIRST.  And ‘seeing is believing’ is crap and a lazy excuse to NOT believe.

Also…Red Elk isn’t, nor is anyone else, A MONKEY TO PERFORM FOR YOUR EDIFICATION.  Your lack of faith is YOUR PROBLEM.

Sorry, Red Elk…this just PISSED ME OFF.
–WS

Heather:

Hi,

I just wanted to clarify when Red Elk refers to Big Brother, it’s in reference to Jesus. Have you read his book Short Stories?  If not, maybe he will allow me to send you a .pdf copy. One of the main themes on Red Elk’s radio interviews, writings and such is that he always says, “Do not believe a word I say. Check Check Check. Test it yourself.”

He also has spoken many times on his interviews that when he is asked to “show” himself levitating, etc. That he never will do it to prove anything to anyone and has only done it as called to do so directly from HIM (God only).
It would be so easy for Red Elk to “perform” and earn riches if he was to “lay to rest the fears of others”. He’s given the instructions and there are those who have followed them, and had success, but to do anything other than do as he is called to do, he simply will never do.

I’m one of the lucky ones. There are those of us who have been lucky enough to be friends, and he is the most generous guy I know. One time when a bunch of us came to visit him, he snuck $7.00 out of his pocket and gave it to one of the people that was with us. We never told him that she had no money, and we paid for her trip to come along, but he knew. She had a tough road, and probably in all honesty didn’t need the $7.00 more than Red Elk did, but that’s the kind of guy he is. I only found out because she gave it back to me when she had more money, to give back to him.

Also, you should know what a gift he is that he writes on his blog and responds and sends emails every single day. He answers hundreds of correspondence a week, so the fact he didn’t ask what your plan was but gave you some advice, I think meant no disrespect. I think in all honesty, he’s just a busy guy who is still taking the time out of his day to teach as he is lead.

Another thing about Red Elk is he shakes, and he doesn’t know how to type correctly. So if you understood how long it takes him to peck at each letter on the keyboard everything he writes, it is something of great effort others normally don’t bother to do.

As a friend, I have been blessed to see amazing things that he is able to do when the time is appropriate, just because I happened to be around, not because he was “showing me”.  He had something he was doing on a higher purpose.

But this world is a bit unsettling now isn’t it? And all the lessons I have learned through Red Elk still doesn’t alleviate my fear, and doesn’t answer all of my questions or make me any more certain of the future than any thing else could.

It sounds like you have a plan, and that you probably are right where you need to be in that plan. Trust, pray, check, test…keep working on it every day, and I would say that it’ll all make sense to us one day. Maybe we have to wait till after we have taken our last breath on earth.

So what do I do? I pray a lot and think a lot. I don’t always agree with Red Elk, and frankly, he doesn’t always agree with me! One thing though, when we need each other, we do what we can. That’s all any of us can do.
Another thing Red Elk likes to tell us too…. Thoughts are real.

That’s all I felt I had to say,,.

Thanks for including me on the email.

Heather

A Final Comment From Red Elk:

Kinda funny, isn’t it?

Here we have one, Vehemently against the Creator.  Laying claim there’s no such thing…or a GOOD one.

Yet she’s EXPOSED there IS!  SHOWING, via right thinking, God is REAL!  And had/has a PLAN.

That Plan: to help all of YOU to UNDERSTAND better both “L”s work and HIS!

All if one FOLLOWS what is Told in Scriptures:  “Praise Him (God) in ALL THINGS”/Etc.

Dontcha just LOVE IT!  ( :  re

(WS)